MacDive software tips

[Sgnips]

hi all, i began my Mac experience a few months ago and last week i came to the question: is there a mac version for the suunto divemanager?
well... no, no mac versions for that 
 
i then took a few deep breaths and googled for something else, finding the MacDive and it worked excellent with my D3
the question is: how can i tell macdive where i was diving? i couldn't find any "edit mode"
during import it didn't ask me anything
in the "info" section, i wrote something but nothing of that came in the graph section or pdf printing or elsewhere
 
can anyone help? (hmmmm... Glenn?? i saw a macdive graph on your site)
is there a manual? (i couldn't find yet)
 
many thanks

[GlennV]

Hi Gabrielle,

I also only just started on MacDive after looking for a divemanager version for the Mac.
It is definately not as elaborate as the divemanager , but works ok for me.
There is no customisation for what kind of info shows on your graph, which is a pity. There is lots of room to input all kinds of data on your dive in the info tab, though you only see than after selecting the individual dive.
Also the gear tab is usefull to record you specific setup for a dive.

I have only one real issue with it ad that it does NOT show the correct dive time but rounds it to the nearest minute. Probably ok for scuba , but useless for freediving.
There have been changes to the software already by writing to the auhor, so maybe i write him about this as well.
If you have thing i suggest do the same.

No manuals available, but most is self explanatory.

[Sgnips]

thanks Glenn, i think i'll write the author, too

i just tried doble clicking on the conutry, location and site fields and found the way to edit their valuesit'll be a boring job filling them one by one, but seems to be the only way: no bulk editing and no right click shortcuts...

i completed the first two dives, now for the remaining 131...

[Sgnips]

BTW: the "total duration" field gives correct dive time, the format is not correct (1'40" actually becomes 1,40), but it works

[william trubridge]

you can edit values for many dives together using the drawer on the right.
1. Select all the dives you want to edit
2. Click in the boxes in the right hand drawer to edit information for all dives together
The developer is a very nice guy (New Zealander), and open to input for improvements.
http://www.thedoorisajar.org

[GlennV]

@Will. Great tip with the multiple values editing. I was also manualy editing hunderds of dives. Duhhhh

@sgnips. Does not work for m . Wierd. I have for a 2.20 dive (from the graph) a total duration of 2.00. Same for all other dives. Either 1.00 or 2.00 (have no dives longer then 3 minutes yet). Can you check again , are you sure ?
Which software version you use ?

[Sgnips]

@will: what you mean with "right hand drawer"? i have nothing on the right, just a small arrow that turns when i click on it without any other result

@Glenn: i'm using version 1.5.2 (which is the latest)
here is  a screenshot, you can see the time values in the DURATION column:

[GlennV]

That is realy wierd. I have the same version and I see only 1.00 or 2.00 values.
I believe so does william. Maybe because your data is from a D3 and ours from a D4 ??
I have written the developer. Lets see what he says.

p.s. Make the dive list window a bit smaller and then click on the little arrow. Then you wil see the right window. I think it falls outside your screen this way.

[GlennV]

Hmm, after looking carefully at your list I suspect it might be something with the mac localstion setting which might be different between our computers, since i see commas as separators for numbers and on mine there are points (e.g 1.00 meters instead of 1.00 meters, same with depth values). Maybe the software interprets this different making the time value afer the comma/point disappear.

Will play a bit with this....

Edit: Have changed my number formats to talian and I get commas indeed instead of dots, but the duration does not change unfortunately. Very strange because the duration should just be calculated by multiplying the number of samples (see raw tab) by the sample interval (see info tab). Anyway will have to wait what the developer says.

[Sgnips]

p.s. Make the dive list window a bit smaller and then click on the little arrow. Then you wil see the right window. I think it falls outside your screen this way.

that's it, Glenn, you're right and now it works!!
many thanks to both of you, i might try to borrow a D4 from a friend next week and see if it makes the trick with Duration time

Edit: Have changed my number formats to talian and I get commas indeed instead of dots, but the duration does not change unfortunately. Very strange because the duration should just be calculated by multiplying the number of samples (see raw tab) by the sample interval (see info tab). Anyway will have to wait what the developer says.

if the software only calculates dive times once (on importing dives), it might be like this

[Sgnips]

are you sure duration time is expressed in minutes? i have some dives during 0,77 0,68 etc...

on the other hand, those during 1,40 etc are right: one minute and 40 seconds

[GlennV]

I have tried changing the locale and reloading dives. Did not work 

So my duration column looks like
Duration
2.00
2.00
2.00
1.00
2.00
1.00
1.00
etc


ps. I also found some old D3 data in my macdive logs, which i imported from Suunto Dive manager , but they also show the same duration problem.
What OSX version are you on ?

[Sgnips]

OSX 10.5.8 (macbook pro)

[william trubridge]

I have exactly the same problem as Glenn.  Running 10.5.8.

[Sgnips]

something is wrong here: i have a dive @38m which has a "Duration" of 1,40if i check into the Raw data, i find there are 84 samples=84 seconds
84 seconds equals to 1 min and 24 seconds which is 1,4 minutes in decimal system (not base 60...)
i don't know what happens in NZ, but me and my friends usually don't talk about 1,4 minutes dive...  nothing about this in the preferences box